Thursday, July 30, 2009

Why does everyone think its Jimmie and Jeff's Fault...?

Ok, so I watched the race up until the rain delay and thought it was over. This morning I find out that they restarted it 2hrs later, thats all fine and dandy. But I also hear about the controversial ending. Ok, so maybe Biffle should not have won! But why does everyone say the only reason the race was re-started in the first place was Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordan's fault? That is ignorant. I think the race should have stayed red flagged w/ (and I hate to admit) Tony Stewart as the winner. Ok, so it went on and Boyer actually crossed the finish line first, but he is not the winner...wtf? An interview I read from Jeff said Boyer was the winner, even though pts wise it was better for Jeff if Biffle won...I dont know, maybe I am just completly confused b/c i missed the ending! Please help me out w/ my question...I think honestly the reason they restarted the race was b/c it was a chase race and not reg season race....not b/c of jeff and jimmie's standings...expain please!!

Why does everyone think its Jimmie and Jeff's Fault...?
Because they are the good guys and the bad guys always like to try and get the good guys in trouble so they (the bad guys) look better. It also has a lot to do with that little green eyed monster called "JEALOUSY". Jeff and Jimmie are both very polished, clean cut, decent guys with manners. AND on top of all that they are both AWESOME drivers.


I think that Nascar did everything in their power to get the race in because for 1 it was a chase race and 2 the people that go to the races don't like to have the race cancelled or postponed. Fans spend a boat load of money going to watch the race. We have a guy at work that goes to both of the Michigan races every year with a group of friends and stays in the infield from Friday thru Sunday. What with missing work and the fee for the spot to park a bus in and the costs of a weekend pass on the infield and the food and drink and not to mention all of the time it takes to prepare for the big weekend to have it shortened or postponed is a total bummer for them. I for one am glad that Nascar got the race going instead of saying OKAY we have reached the half way point so lets call it. That probably would have been what they would have done if it hadn't have been a chase race. I'm sure that the fans that were at the track appreciated it (unless they were Tony fans). I liked it because Jeff and Jimmie got back to the top where they should be in the standings. I can positively say that if Nascar would have run a green white checker which they usually do when there is a caution in the last couple of laps (and THEY SHOULD HAVE) then there would have been a lot more whinning and crying going on because Jeff would have won the race.As they say,' He was picking them up and putting them down '. MAN can you just imagine the crap that the HMS haters would be saying right now if that would have been the case? GO GENTLEMAN JEFF!!!!! WIN IT ALL THIS YEAR!!!!!
Reply:In my opinion it's a matter of semantics. They have ALWAYS used the term "maintaining pace car speed" and not the recently used "reasonable speed." I think that is where the bulk of the confusion comes from on that matter, as far as restarting the race I agree with you. The usual procedure is to call the race if it's over halfway AND they don't expect to finish it. This situation definitely fit that criteria. One thing for certain is that the only thing consistent about how NASCAR gives out penalties and enforces it's "rules" is it's inconsistency in those matters. I'm sure NASCAR felt an obligation to the fans in attendance, a need to uphold the integrity of the chase format and the spirit of competition as reasons for running as much of the race as possible. There were so many woulda/shoulda/couldas in this race it is hard to say why they did what they did but the skeptics and haters will always say it is because of an HMS bias from NASCAR. Back when they got the harsher penalties for their infractions at Sonoma it didn't appear that way.
Reply:I am actually glad that they restarted the race and I am a huge Jeff Gordon fan myself and I loved where they finished including the updated points standings. I think that most people think that they are favored by NASCAR that everything that is associated with the race being called or started back up would benefit them one way or another and yadda yadda yadda and its not true. NASCAR did what was best for the race and everyone involved and they dont play favortism despite what everyone else thinks.
Reply:To all those who feel the need the need to blame HMS are dumb, uh none of the HMS drivers finished in first, Jimmie finished 3rd, Casey Mears 4th, Jeff Gordon 5th and Kyle Busch 41st. Besides with the way that the race kept having to be restarted because of rain and or wrecks/debris there was no way that they were going to catch Greg Biffle or Clint Bowyer.





The reason why Greg Biffle was the winner even though he did come across the finish line first is when the yellow flag comes out the field is frozen, so as long as Biffle limped across the finish line it would not have mattered if the entire field passed him.
Reply:The person who was the luckiest, was Johnson. In two laps with fresher tires, gordon would have passed him before the checker.
Reply:Ya know I'll never understand it either all the jealousy and hatred for this team you all sound like of jealous little teenage school girls! whaaaa whaaa whaaa Jeffy did this l Jimmie did that, oh they cry, oh they cheat, or their gay, whaaa whaa whaa, oh they suck, (it;s hard to believe with 4 championships for Jeffy and 1 for Jimmie and maybe one on the way for both of them) oh!!!!!! and you Tony Stewart fans have nothing to say about anything,we all know why, I have NEVER EVER seen Hendricks team act that way, EVER and you know I like Jr. but man he always seems so down and mopey, I don't get it hopefully that will change next year with a winning team, well see, so all you haters GROW UP and get over it already!!!!!! Hopefully someday you will realize it is NOT always Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson's fault!!!!!!!!!
Reply:well im a fan of jeff and jimmy i dont think it was there fault how many other races have they cleaned the track up the rain and went racing again it was really the chase in there minds and they wanted to give the fans what they came for not to pay a butt load of money for a ticket and not even see the race end they would have started it even if jeff and jimmy got in a wreck
Reply:I agree with you. I am not a Gordon or Johnson fan but I think that the race should have ended another way. There was plenty of time left and it wasn't really that dark to finish off a two lap race.
Reply:It was restarted because the rain stopped and they were able to dry the track which is the same thing they would have done during the regular season.





While NASCAR is prone to make strange, unusual and flexible decisions, one of their main goals is to have a race run in its entirety on the day it is scheduled if it is possible.





Personally I am more tired of all the monday morning armchair officials on here who think they know everything and love to second guess everyones decisions.





Except me....lol
Reply:I agree I think Nascar and Kansas SpeedwayOfficials and workers gave a great effort to get the track going because is was a CHASE RACE VS REGULAR SEASON RACE!!!! I think they did it for the Nascar Fans and for all 12 Chasers especially. And for the other teams not in the chase to advance their position and make more prize money. HMS had nothing to do with it NOR did RCR--JGR--or Rousch Fenway or DEI
Reply:I'm not a fan of either Jeff or Jimmie but really question the maturity of certain people answering questions on here. Everyone has a favorite driver(I cheer for Dale jr) but I will not say bad things about any other driver. To say the race should have been called with Tony leading is NOT our call, it's NASCAR's! Biffle won because NASCAR froze the field after Montoyo's blown tire declaring the race over.
Reply:I too, like you, thought the race was over. However, NASCAR has made a commitment to race fans to run as many laps of every race as humanly possible. In this case, the rain stopped in enough time for them to dry the track and attempt a few more laps. Did I agree? No! Why? Because they had already reached the halfway mark. I think it should have been called after the 2nd red flag. Kind of funny isn't it? My being a Johnson fan and all. Yes them restarting the race helped him, but it hurt so many more. It hurt Kenseth, Kurt Busch, Denny Hamlin, Carl Edwards as well as Jimmie and Jeff. I do not agree with NASCAR restarting the race. I think a true champion is defined as someone who beats the best of the best. You can't beat the best when things like this happen.
Reply:Nascar couldn't let JJ %26amp; JG get so far behind in the points, besause of the large fan base and sponsorships they have. So they had to restart knowing it couldn't be finished in time of darkness, also knowing TS had to pit within 3 laps of the re-start.


What most people I hear talking about is the fact JG told Boyer he had won the race because he crossed the finish line 1st, over GBiffle.


This whole mess is a mess, and an embarrasment to Nascar in my opinion.
Reply:The problem is that Nascar seems to be ruleless. Biffle maintained a reasonable speed and your not allowed to pass a car for position under yellow or something like that. They restarted it knowing they were not going to finish the race, so it should have been called with Stewart as the winner. Who knows what Nascar is thinking? I wont blame a driver, they have nothing to do with it. Nascar needs to step up and actually do something that follows their own rules. Instead they just kind of piece it together season by season and hope nobody notices that they have no clue what they are doing. The Flocks had it right, unionize.
Reply:As for the race, NASCAR DID DO THE RIGHT THING.


The fans got what they paid for (tickets, transportation, food etc..) and the chasers did also. It wasn't anyone's fault but those who wrecked they didn't finish better. As for Stewart (flat tire), it was 2 peoples fault, TONY'S and Zippy's. He wouldn't have finished no worse Than 15th, and that alone would have kept him in the chase. So stop blaming NASCAR for trying to give the people who came to the race their money's worth. You people who watch it on TV, get over it, the most you paid was for DIRECTV hot-pass, whoopy-doo.


Try going to a race and spending hundreds of dollars and then getting ripped off because the race was called off half way.


Thank you NASCAR, for trying to do the right thing....for once.
Reply:I don't think Jeff or Jimmy had anything to do with the what happened yesterday!


I'll admit it I don't like HMS simply because they seem to win more than other drivers. You could throw a bag of roofing nails out on the track and one or more of those HMS cars wouldn't get a flat!!!


But yesterday didn't have to do with them.


Nascar unlike other sports refuses to tell anyone what the rules are at any given time.


They need a published rule book that everyone has access to.


As long as they make the rules up as they go this is going to keep happening!


People are always going to be upset with the rulings because they understood them to be something different the last time the situation happened!


You can't blame anyone but NASCAR!!!
Reply:K D said it best
Reply:What else would you expect from Johnson and Gordon detractors? Those ppl fail to get a true grip on reality and accept the fact that it's not Johnson nor Gordon's fault for all the World's problems.





Furthermore, the only driver to gain by the restart was Biffle.
Reply:It was restarted because Hendricks paid the most for the championship this year. NASCAR couldn't have them over 100 points down in the chase. And no, it is Not JJ and JG fault, If I paid for something I would expect it too.


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